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Pricing a Division 08 bid

Pricing a Division 08 bid means turning a set of drawings and specifications into a number you are willing to stand behind. For a distributor supplying commercial doors, frames and architectural hardware, that work runs from reading the door schedule through to a proposal the general contractor can accept. Done well it is methodical; done in a hurry it is where margin quietly leaks out. This guide walks through the steps and the places estimates go wrong.

01

Start from the door schedule and the hardware sets

Every commercial bid starts with the opening. The architect's door schedule lists each opening by number and tells you the door type, size, material, fire rating, frame and the hardware set assigned to it. The hardware sets, usually written up in the specification, spell out exactly which hinges, locksets, closers, exit devices, stops and accessories belong to each kind of opening.

Before you price anything, read both together and make sure they agree. A schedule that calls for a 90-minute rated opening but a hardware set with no fire-rated closer is a conflict you want to catch now, not after you have quoted it. The schedule and the sets are the source of truth for the whole bid; if they are wrong, the price is wrong.

02

Build the takeoff

A takeoff is the count. You work through the schedule and tally what the job actually needs: how many openings, and for each one, how many doors, how many frames and exactly which hardware items. A pair of doors is two leaves in one opening, often with a mullion, and it carries more hardware than a single. Sidelites, borrowed lites and transoms add frame and glazing lines.

The takeoff is where most of the real work lives, and where a missed line becomes a loss. It helps to count in a consistent order every time so nothing is skipped.

  • Openings: the total count, by type and rating
  • Doors: leaves per opening, material, size, finish, any vision lites
  • Frames: knock-down or welded, throat size, profile, anchors
  • Hardware: every item in each set, by quantity, times the openings using that set
  • Accessories and prep: silencers, thresholds, weatherstrip, glazing
03

Price each line from the manufacturer price books

With the takeoff done, each line gets a price. Distributors price from manufacturer price books, which list list prices for every door, frame and piece of hardware a given maker offers. You apply your buying multiplier or discount to the list price to get your cost, then add margin to reach your sell price.

The hard part is not the arithmetic, it is keeping the price books current. Manufacturers reissue them, discontinue items, change multipliers and move products between categories. An estimate priced off last year's book can be wrong on dozens of lines without anyone noticing until the purchase order bounces back. Maintaining price books is ongoing work, and it is one of the places software earns its keep: eMullion maintains manufacturer catalogs for you so a line is priced from current data rather than a spreadsheet someone last updated months ago.

04

Apply multipliers, margin, labor and freight

Cost is only the starting point. You apply your discount multiplier to get landed cost, then a margin to reach the sell price. Margin should be deliberate and consistent across the bid; when it drifts line to line, the total stops meaning anything.

Depending on scope, you may also add labor for shop prep or install, prep charges for machining frames and doors for hardware, and freight. Whether these belong in a given bid depends on what you are selling: material-only, or material plus installation. Decide that up front, because it changes the number and what the contractor thinks they are buying.

05

Review the worksheet, then produce the proposal

Before the price goes out, review the bid worksheet as a whole. Does every opening on the schedule appear? Do the quantities total correctly? Is the margin consistent? Are the rated openings carrying rated hardware? A short, honest review catches the errors that cost real money.

The proposal is the last step: a clean document that states what you are furnishing, any clarifications or exclusions, lead times and the price. Exclusions matter as much as inclusions, because they define the edge of what you are responsible for.

06

Common pitfalls

Most bad Division 08 numbers come from a short list of recurring mistakes. Knowing them is half the defense.

  • Stale price book data: pricing off an outdated or discontinued line
  • Missed hardware: a set item left off the takeoff, multiplied across every opening that uses the set
  • Transcription errors: a quantity or price mistyped between schedule, takeoff and worksheet
  • Inconsistent margin: different markups applied line to line with no reason
  • Schedule and spec conflicts carried straight into the price

Frequently asked questions

What is a takeoff in a Division 08 bid?
A takeoff is the detailed count of what a job needs, built from the door schedule: the number of openings, and for each one the doors, frames and specific hardware items. It is the quantity side of the estimate that the pricing is then applied to.
Why do manufacturer price books cause so many errors?
Manufacturers reissue price books, discontinue items and change multipliers regularly. If an estimate is priced from an outdated book, individual lines can be wrong without anyone noticing until the order is placed. Keeping the books current is ongoing, detailed work.
Should labor and freight be in the bid price?
It depends on scope. A material-only bid prices the doors, frames and hardware; a supply-and-install bid adds shop prep, machining and installation labor, and freight. Decide which you are quoting up front, because it changes both the number and what the contractor expects.
What is the most common way margin gets lost on a bid?
Missed hardware and inconsistent margin. A single set item left off the takeoff is multiplied across every opening that uses that set, and margins that drift line to line make the total unreliable. Both are caught by a disciplined takeoff and a worksheet review.

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